Comments on: Avoiding The Adjective Fallacy https://betterexplained.com/articles/adjective-fallacy/ Math lessons that click Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:06:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Wonko the Sane https://betterexplained.com/articles/adjective-fallacy/#comment-334530 Thu, 23 Feb 2017 01:13:38 +0000 http://betterexplained.com/?p=5299#comment-334530 In reply to Kostya Berger.

Technically, yes, that fully proves it to be linear. However, trying to shove the phrases “Cartesian coordinates” and “linear dependencies” down our students’ throats defeats the entire purpose of the intuitive demonstration. Instead, I would argue that, at this stage, the best answer to the question is that, looking at it in the picture, it *looks* a lot like a line.

Does this prove, without a doubt, that the method works? Of course not. But it creates a visceral, satisfying sort of understanding — one that relies not on manipulation of symbols we’re vaguely proficient with, but on what we can see with our own two eyes. The definitive proof can come later.

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By: Kostya Berger https://betterexplained.com/articles/adjective-fallacy/#comment-334123 Sun, 18 Dec 2016 19:48:22 +0000 http://betterexplained.com/?p=5299#comment-334123 In reply to Kostya Berger.

OK, I think I can answer this one: because the circumference (2″Pi”r) formula is a LINEAR equation, so the gradual change of the argument (r) will make a straight line in Cartesian coordinates. And curves, from our experience, are NOT linear dependencies.

Good, your illustration has made me think :))) thanks a lot.

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By: Kostya Berger https://betterexplained.com/articles/adjective-fallacy/#comment-334121 Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:52:15 +0000 http://betterexplained.com/?p=5299#comment-334121 Hey, thank you so much!

I entirely agree with the idea of looking for an understanding instead of a “definition”. In reality, it turns out, mathematicians are akin to technical inventors, are they not? Well, this is my idea of it, anyway…

Back to your “calculus” illustration of the area of a circle. On the page it’s taken from it says, after all the circle dissection done and the straightened “rings” placed next to one another to form a triangle, as the illustration makes one believe:”We have a bunch of straightened rings that form a triangle, which is much easier to measure.”

Yes, it IS easier to measure, but before we do we must be absolutely sure this IS a triangle. I mean, the base IS straight because we made it so, and so is the height side of it because we’ve “straightened” the “rings”. All right. But what proves that the “hypotenuse” of that triangle must necessarily form a straight line and not a curve? Sure it would suit as best if it was, but is it?

Or is this precisely that “intuitive” point we’re talking about? Something we FIRST accept in order to let it lead us to a solution, and later on find the ways to prove it WAS actually true?

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By: kalid https://betterexplained.com/articles/adjective-fallacy/#comment-332064 Sat, 05 Dec 2015 22:59:38 +0000 http://betterexplained.com/?p=5299#comment-332064 @Benjamin: Good point. I think technology can help scale the Socratic method up a bit (people helping each other, teachers helping many students, sharing knowledge of what works.) I hope we can move more resources towards this.

@Valery: Thanks for the comment. I agree — with children, we seem to focus on historical techniques that actually work (immersion, intuition-first, examples, etc.), vs. the over-formalization that we *think* works for adults.

@Lance: Great example! I never thought about TMNT but wow, even that complex scenario can be understood tacitly. Glad you’re enjoying the site :).

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